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Posted 02 November 2006 - 08:59 PM
QUOTE(DSM112 @ Nov 1 2006, 11:36 PM)
Thanks for pointing that out. It's funny how DCOL is still getting airplay and 'Emotional' isn't.
Is it really that surprising?
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Posted 02 November 2006 - 09:44 PM
QUOTE(cyrax78 @ Nov 2 2006, 09:59 PM)
Is it really that surprising?
Well, considering DCOL was off of the AI single and was never really pushed at radio, whereas 'Emotoinal' was off of the album and though it wasn't pushed much either but still got much more airplay than DCOL, I think it's surprising.
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Posted 03 November 2006 - 12:10 AM
I would be more surprised by bumps in airplay for "Emotional" at this point.
"Emotional" never fit its target format of CHR/Pop. DCOL fit Adult Contemporary, where it got a decent amount of adds at the time. Additionally, AC is more likely to continue recurrent play for a wider variety of songs than CHR/Pop, and is more likely to fullfill a request for something not currently on the playlist. Diana's DCOL is more widely recognized because of AI than "Emotional" would ever be.
BTW, you can't directly compare the spin counts for the two songs because AC's numbers are always lower, for a variety of reasons.
"Emotional" never fit its target format of CHR/Pop. DCOL fit Adult Contemporary, where it got a decent amount of adds at the time. Additionally, AC is more likely to continue recurrent play for a wider variety of songs than CHR/Pop, and is more likely to fullfill a request for something not currently on the playlist. Diana's DCOL is more widely recognized because of AI than "Emotional" would ever be.
BTW, you can't directly compare the spin counts for the two songs because AC's numbers are always lower, for a variety of reasons.
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Posted 03 November 2006 - 01:08 AM
QUOTE(Arcane Jill @ Nov 3 2006, 01:10 AM)
I would be more surprised by bumps in airplay for "Emotional" at this point.
"Emotional" never fit its target format of CHR/Pop. DCOL fit Adult Contemporary, where it got a decent amount of adds at the time. Additionally, AC is more likely to continue recurrent play for a wider variety of songs than CHR/Pop, and is more likely to fullfill a request for something not currently on the playlist. Diana's DCOL is more widely recognized because of AI than "Emotional" would ever be.
BTW, you can't directly compare the spin counts for the two songs because AC's numbers are always lower, for a variety of reasons.
While that's the case for the most part, you can't say AC numbers are always lower. When a single is released primarily to AC and it crosses over to Pop, that is a scenario where it will most likely be the opposite. Take KT Tunstall for instance. 'Black Horse and the Cherry Tree' was originally intended for AC, but once Katharine performed it on AI, Pop ate it up. Even over the past few weeks its airplay has been higher on AC than Pop."Emotional" never fit its target format of CHR/Pop. DCOL fit Adult Contemporary, where it got a decent amount of adds at the time. Additionally, AC is more likely to continue recurrent play for a wider variety of songs than CHR/Pop, and is more likely to fullfill a request for something not currently on the playlist. Diana's DCOL is more widely recognized because of AI than "Emotional" would ever be.
BTW, you can't directly compare the spin counts for the two songs because AC's numbers are always lower, for a variety of reasons.
Another example would be Anna Nalick's 'Breathe (2 AM).' It was formally an AC single that originally did poorly on Pop but got second wind from being featured on whichever show it was featured on (I want to say it was Grey's Anatomy).
But back to Diana's songs...it makes sense that AC would be more apt to play an older song than Pop would be, but still...'Emotional' was bigger than DCOL ever was, and even though it was never sent for adds at AC, I still remember it getting a good amount of airplay for a time considering the situation. If anything, DCOL is getting more airplay (as little as it is) most likely because it is a cover of a well-known song that fits AC perfectly.
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Posted 03 November 2006 - 02:18 AM
What I meant was that Pop's numbers are larger than AC's numbers, format to format. Not that every individual song always gets more airplay on Pop than it does AC. Check the top songs on Pop right now and look at their weekly spin total. Compare it to AC's top songs. The potential for a song on AC, spin-wise, will ALWAYS be much smaller than its potential on Pop, because AC maxes out at a much lower spin total for its top song at any given time than Pop does. Whether it's because of the difference in panel sizes, or playlist flexibility, or a combination of both, you simply cannot compare the total number of spins a song gets on AC to the total number of spins another song, or even the same song, gets on Pop, with no other context.
Besides that, the examples of "Black Horse and the Cherry Tree" and "2AM" are still off because in both cases you're comparing the same singular song on multiple formats, rather than comparing multiple songs on different singular formats, which is what we're talking about here. (Plus nevermind the fact that AC airplay peaks much later in a hit's chart run than Pop airplay, and also nevermind the fact that both of those songs were aided by outside exposure after they'd spent significant time on the radio, something that can't be said for either of Diana's songs, and nevermind the fact that such television exposure came before their peaks on one or all of the formats to which they were released, while we're talking about minimal recurrent play for Diana's songs which is occuring way after their peaks, making your examples quadruply inappropriate.)
You're missing the point. Even if it did get more (label-purchased overnight) airplay within the context of its format, that really is moot. As I said, more people know Diana's DCOL than they know Diana's "Emotional." It's a simple fact. The viewers for Diana's first AI performance of DCOL alone were practically triple "Emotional's" total radio audience to date.
And the more people who know a song, the more likely someone, whether it's a listener with a request or a DJ looking to play something rare for a change, is going to think of playing the song down the line when it's officially dead on the charts.
One of the many reasons why continued play for DCOL, compared to "Emotional," should not be surprising.
Besides that, the examples of "Black Horse and the Cherry Tree" and "2AM" are still off because in both cases you're comparing the same singular song on multiple formats, rather than comparing multiple songs on different singular formats, which is what we're talking about here. (Plus nevermind the fact that AC airplay peaks much later in a hit's chart run than Pop airplay, and also nevermind the fact that both of those songs were aided by outside exposure after they'd spent significant time on the radio, something that can't be said for either of Diana's songs, and nevermind the fact that such television exposure came before their peaks on one or all of the formats to which they were released, while we're talking about minimal recurrent play for Diana's songs which is occuring way after their peaks, making your examples quadruply inappropriate.)
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'Emotional' was bigger than DCOL ever was
You're missing the point. Even if it did get more (label-purchased overnight) airplay within the context of its format, that really is moot. As I said, more people know Diana's DCOL than they know Diana's "Emotional." It's a simple fact. The viewers for Diana's first AI performance of DCOL alone were practically triple "Emotional's" total radio audience to date.
And the more people who know a song, the more likely someone, whether it's a listener with a request or a DJ looking to play something rare for a change, is going to think of playing the song down the line when it's officially dead on the charts.
One of the many reasons why continued play for DCOL, compared to "Emotional," should not be surprising.
